Thanks Scott. Torbjorn is the same age as I am and raced against each other alot in the citizen races. I could keep up with him skating but classic skiing for Norwegians is natural for them. I jokingly say it’s in their dna and they learn to walk to get to their classic skis. The steep hill is an old 2 track road that goes up for 3 miles with 2500′ total vertical. The old timers around here call it the goat trail. It starts with a 3/4 mile 1000′ pitch that has the 40% grades with short lower angle sections that takes me 24 min. I can extend the duration going up. Is the 2×24 min 48 min the total time you recomend for the heavy water carries. The moose hoof workouts make sense. Would you recomend doing thems as intervals only or do longer single length ones. I live in Midway Utah there are many trails around here that will work for for moose hoofs. For those who are not xc ski racers moose hoofs are long strides with intensity faster than walking but not running easy bounding simulating classic ski technique and can be done for longer periods of time than bounding.