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Calculating AeT on Relatively Steep Hikes

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    chris12stewart
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    Hello,

    I live in an area with fairly steep trails (generally 800 – 1,000 feet/mile). Most of my hiking objectives this year are on trails with similar grades. I understand that AeT can vary depending on trail steepness and so would like to determine my AeT on these types of hikes. I have generally found, based on the nose-breathing test and how sustainable my hiking pace feels, that my AeT is around 140bpm. I would, however, like to get a more accurate (and evidence-based) number to optimize my training and avoid potential injury. The problem is that on trails of around 800 ft/mile I have to intermittently stop to stay in Zone 2 no matter how slow I’m going (I feel like going slow on steep trails just means more muscular work due to more time spent standing on one leg). On trails where the gradient starts off flatter and then increases, my Pa:HR metric on TrainingPeaks always shows a large negative number such as – 44% (I’m assuming TrainingPeaks isn’t using the Normalized Graded Pace?) Any insight is much appreciated. Thanks!

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    Avatar photoScott Johnston
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    Thanks for writing in with your question.  As the grade steepens strength and muscular endurance begin to play larger and larger roles in propelling you upward.   Ideally, you’d do a HR drift test on a steep treadmill.  800ft/mile is right at 15% grade. Most treadmills will go to 15%.   1000ft/mile is close to 20% and testing on that grade will require a special treadmill called an incline trainer, some of which will go to 40%.

    You have to slow down because your aerobic capacity is too low to support the speed you’d like to be going.  I would engage in a leg strengthening program using heavy weighted box step-ups for 6-8 weeks 2x/week and then shift to weighted steep uphill hiking to develop Muscular Endurance(ME). A stair master works great for this type of workout 1x/week.

    I’m not sure your interpretation of the slow walking being more demanding because you spend more time on one foot is accurate.  When you slow down your HR surely drops.

    I do not think TP metrics include a Grade Adjusted Pace. Some Garmin (and other) watches do have that metric

    Going well uphill has altogether different fitness demands than hiking or running on gentle terrain.  Strength and ME play a huge part.  But take the long approach using the methods I mentioned and you will see improvement even during the strength block and bigger gains during the ME block.

    Scott

     

     

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